there is other kind of hackers action experts will say the hackers from eastern europe and russia are more interested into hacking into bank accounts and using that for, you know, cyber crime and more of a, you know, stealing money from credit cards and such. the chinese almost say they are more interested in taking documents. withe about -- everything is so technology depend ant these days. air traffic controller system. you think about our transportation systems, the electric grid. you can go on and on. a hacker -- could a hacker get into those systems and shut them down? >> that's absolutely what the obama administration is continuing to warn about. during the state of the union address last week, the president mentioned that. again, the possibility that a hacker with the click of a mouse could should down part of the power grid and turn off the lights. >> how do we fight against this? last year, attempted to stop this or at least patch up some of the flaws and security flaws. xwhapd actually is it became a very con tentious issue where republicans were siding with the chamber of c